Episode 31 · Sep 27, 2026 · A Healthy Conversation

Healthcare, taxes, and public service in Maine

with Bobby Charles

About this episode

Bobby Charles, Republican candidate for governor of Maine, joins co-hosts Dr. Lisa Belisle and Dr. Jeff Barkin to discuss the pressures facing Maine's healthcare infrastructure. The conversation centers on what Charles describes as a three-legged stool of access, quality, and affordability, and what he argues has gone wrong when any one of those elements weakens. Charles points to below-cost Medicaid reimbursement rates, administrative friction between public and private payers, and what he characterizes as years of budget growth without corresponding management discipline as compounding causes of a statewide system in stress. The Penobscot Community Health Care crisis in Bangor, a federally qualified health center serving roughly 50,000 patients, comes up as the most urgent illustration of those pressures.

Belisle and Barkin press Charles on specifics: how a future administration would recruit and retain physicians in rural Maine, whether loan forgiveness tied to multi-year service commitments could help, and whether fiscal restraint alone is a sufficient answer or whether direct state investment is also required. Charles argues that lowering property taxes, improving public safety near hospital campuses, and strengthening residency programs are as important to recruitment as financial incentives alone. He also addresses the state's income tax, describing a phased reduction plan and contending that eliminating duplicative spending and realigning Medicaid management would free resources without cutting core services. The co-hosts note the tension between those goals and the scale of need.

In the final segment, Belisle invites Charles to step back from policy and speak more personally, framing the conversation around his long friendship with astronaut Buzz Aldrin, whose foreword appears in Charles's book Cherish America. Charles draws a thread from his own upbringing in Wayne, Maine, through his years working alongside Colin Powell, to what he sees as a shared disposition among people he admires: the willingness to attempt something others consider impossible and to stay with it. He reflects on how World War II veterans, early mentors, and his own experience in Navy intelligence and federal law enforcement shaped his sense of obligation to public life, and he connects that sense of purpose directly to why he entered the governor's race.

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Also mentioned: Cherish America · Eagles and Evergreens · Penobscot Community Health Care

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From this episode

“I really believe in goals. I believe that if you can lay it out there somewhere in the distant future on a horizon and then point yourself toward it and keep working, little by little, you will get there and then you'll feel better about getting there.”

Bobby Charles

“The entire issue for me boils down to balancing the three-legged stool. And the three-legged stool is access to healthcare, quality healthcare, and affordable healthcare. If any one of those three legs goes, the stool doesn't stand up.”

Bobby Charles

“90% of everything is in your attitude. I think about veterans I've worked with who were not able to walk, but the mental attitude was, oh yes, I can. And it happens.”

Bobby Charles

“If it costs $20,000 to deliver a baby and the state only reimburses $4,600, that's not going to work economically. It's not going to work. Doesn't matter whether you're a nonprofit or a for-profit.”

Bobby Charles

“I think incentives work better than mandates. I think there's a great tendency in government, once you get there, to think at the state or federal level that mandates are the best way to manage things because you can just bring the coercive power of the government in behind things. It just doesn't really work.”

Bobby Charles

“If we can be our best selves, it opens up all these reservoirs of resourcefulness and thinking and achievement. And I want Maine to be the best state in the country.”

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